The Webster Branch

Anne Scrymgeour (1702-1775) married 1725, Alexander Robertson, Provost of Dundee and had with other issue, a daughter Margaret, born 1734 who married James Speid, and had two daughters and a son.

 

One daughter, Anne Speid (1772-1850), married 1792 William Croom, a Merchant of Dundee and had the following issue.

 

(a)     Jane Croom born 1792 married Andrew Webster and died 1871.

(b)     Anne Croom born 1793 and died 1835.

(c)     Margaret Croom born 1795 married Alexander Fergusson and died 1871.

(d)     Isobella Croom born 1797 and died 1879.

(e)     John Croom born 1799 married a Miss Munsy and died 1883.

(f)      Agnes Croom born 1801 and died 1833.

(g)     a daughter born and died 1803.

(h)     a daughter born and died 1805.

(i).     William Croom born 1807 and died 1808

(j)      Rosalinda Croom born 1808, married a Mr Munsey and died 1890.

(k)     Mary Croom born 1810 and died 1890.

(1)     a son born and died 1812.

(m)    a son born and died 1814.

 

The eldest daughter, Jane Croom married about 1815, Andrew

Webster of whom we know very little.  According to John Webster in his reminiscences of 'an Old, Settler in Australia and New Zealand, when he was about 12 years old (1830), his elder brother William, went to Glasgow to work in the office of Uncle John Croom, a Muslin Manufacturer.  John followed two years later - say 1832/33.

 

Meanwhile my father had passed away and my Mother came to live in Glasgow.  My elder brother and myself lived with her and I hinted my desire to go to the West Indies, but she would not hear of it, and said if I wanted to go anywhere Australia was far better... so it was arranged that the first emigrant ship should take me to that far away country.

 

Jane sailed out to New Zealand late 1854 on board the Moa, accompanied by her daughters, Isabella and Anne, son George, and son in-law John Leck.  They arrived in New Zealand on the 5th March 1855 and eventually settled in Devonport where she died on the 19th of June 1871.  She is buried in the Devonport Presbyterian Cemetery together with, Isabella, Anne and John Leck, John and Emily Webster, and a grandson, Alexander.

 

The issue  of Andrew and Jane were:-

 

(a)      William Webster born 11/5/1816 and died 1904. (Part 2)

(b)          John Webster born 30/6/1818 and died 1912. (Part 3)   

(c)           George Webster born 1820 and died 11/4/1871.

(d)     Anne Webster born 30/12/1822 married John Leck and died 12/6/1906.

(e)    Alexander Speid Webster born 1824 and died 1905. (Part 4)

(f)      James Webster born 15/5/1830 and died young. (Scotland)

(g)      Isobella Webster born 1/6/1833 and died 28/12/1899.

 

 

ALEXANDER SPEID WEBSTER

 

I am not sure which aspect is the more intriguing -- the known facts or the unanswered questions which the known facts provoke.

 

Blend a Scottish migrant who became a merchant and miller in Sydney, a man who pacified unhappy fellow members of the Union Club by getting oysters brought to Sydney from New Zealand, a man who served in Sydney as Consul for the Kingdom of Hawaii for over 20 years (and I have no proof that he ever went to Hawaii), a man who would appear out of the blue in Glasgow and fascinate his granddaughters with tales of the Antipodes.

 

A man who married an eighteen year old beauty and was a widower within four years with an infant son, a man who was a millionaire two or three times and dam near bankrupt between times.  A man who finally, after 50 years returned to Scotland to die - blend all these known aspects and answer the unknown bits and there you have

Alexander Speid Webster.

A chronological setting of known facts.

 

1824/28 Birth            According to a family tree prepared for Harry Carvick Webster in 1925, A. S. Webster was born in 1824, yet on Harry's Birth-Certificate. data

given by A. S. Webster, as ‘Father' his age in 1862 is given as 34, which gives his birth year as 1828.

 

**9th March 1852      Arrived in Auckland, New Zealand on board the “Katherine

                                   Stewart Forbes,” recording an account of the voyage in “Journal Of

                                  A Voyage To New Zealand,” by A.Webster.  The original Journal  is

                                  held in Auckland City Library as A.C.L MSS. 146  and the original   

                                  transcription by Jill Kemp  is A.C.L MSS.10 

                       

12th July 1859           Appointed Vice Consul of Hawaii for "N.S.W." by Charles. St. Julian, "His Hawaiian Majesty's Consul General” Refer N.S.W. Government Gazette 1859 p.1546.

 

8th June 1861            Married at St Michael's church Sydney, to Mary Thompson, 18 year old daughter of John Carvick Thompson. (deceased) and his wife Mary Ann Wood.

 

13th May 1862          Birth of Harry Carvick Webster, son of Alexander Speid Webster (age 34) and Mary Webster (age 19).

 

1864                                                         Alexander Speid Webster elected member of Union Club

 

1865                                                         27th April 1865 Mary Webster died - cause of death

ulceration of knee.

 

February 1869             Gave up his room at Union Club for the use of H. R. H. The Duke of Edinburgh.

 

24th March 1871         Appointed Hawaiian Consul for the Colony of N.S.W. and its dependencies.

N. S. W. Government Gazette 1871 p.667.

 

1874                            Records of Union Club show that, to get better oysters for members, 'Mr. Webster arranged with the steward of the Hero to bring back two bags from each New Zealand trip.’

 

23rd March 1875         Thomas Laidlaw Scott, appointed by Webster to be acting Consul for the Hawaiian Islands during his absence from the Colony of N.S.W. - N. S. W. Government Gazette 1875. p.877.

 

1876                            Sands Directory for Sydney lists Webster, Merchant at 3 Gresham Street.

Private residence Union Club.

 

26th August 1879         Appointed Consul General for Hawaii with jurisdiction extending to 'the Colonies on the Mainland of Australia'.

N. S. W. Government Gazette 1879 p.3733.

 

18th June,1880             T. L. Scott once again appointed Acting Consul by Webster during Webster’s absence from the Colony.  Gazette 1880 p.2943.

 

4th January 1882       Webster appointed Charles Frederick Stokes

as Acting Consul for Hawaii.  No reason given as in previous appointments of Acting Consuls.  Gazette 1882 p.30.

 

1886 -1905               Sands Directory lists Alexander Webster,

Miller, at 10 Boundary Street. Redfern and residing at 132 Brougham Street Glebe.

 

The Annual Directories repeat the Brougham St Glebe address up 'til 1905, when the street was renamed Burton Street.  Some re-numbering of the street went on too, -132 became 62.

 

A. S. Webster is shown as living at Burton St. Glebe. in the 1907 directory but not in later editions.  The entry in the 1907 directory is probably a repeat of the earlier editions without an on-the-spot check.

 

1905              A. S. Webster went back to Scotland and died of pneumonia.

Buried in Largs Cemetery.

 

MARY THOMPSON

 

Mary Thompson, the wife of Alexander Speid Webster was according to the baptismal certificate, the daughter of one John Carvick Thompson and his wife Mary Anne (Wood).  She was born 27 May 1843 (baptised by Rev. Thomas Steel of the Parish of Petersham) married Alexander Speid Webster shortly after her 18th birthday, at St Michaels Church, Sydney.  The following year, 13 May 1862, their only child Harry Carvick was born.  Mary Webster died at their residence, 227 Macquarie Street, on the 27 April 1865.  Cause of death is given as 'Ulceration of the knee joint, suffered for two and a half years' and certified by a Dr Brereton.

Ulceration of the knee joint seems a rather unusual cause of death and one wonders if the disease was T.B. or an infection which developed into septicaemia.  Her portrait shows her to appear older than her 22 years and perhaps T.B. could be the cause for this.  By family tradition she was a most beautiful girl, and there are a couple of photographs to support this.  These show a striking resemblance particularly about the eyes to her grand-daughter, Rua Webster.  Legend has it that Mary Thompson was known to Sir George Gibbs, who when he met Rua Webster after her marriage to Sir Dudley Williams, exclaimed, 'Well, well!  Mary Thompson lives again.'

 

HARRY CARVICK WEBSTER

 

Son of Alexander Speid Webster and Mary Thompson.  Born at Sydney on 13 May 1862.  After his mother died, he was cared for by his two Aunts, Anne and Isobella.  From the age of seven to his early teens, he attended a private school run by an Englishman in the Bowral/Moss Vale district.  He then went to Edinburgh for some years at Merchiston Castle School.

 

At eighteen he returned to Australia and worked as a Jackaroo on the Cunningham property 'Lanyon', near Queanbeyan.  After a couple of years he returned to Scotland to work in the firm Alexander Fergusson & Co., White Lead and Paint Makers in Glasgow.  Alexander Fergusson Snr. and Harry Webster's father were first cousins.

He married Agnes Fairfax, daughter of Edward Ross Fairfax at St Stephens Church, Gloucester Road in London on 31 July 1888.. They lived for several years at 10 Huntley Gardens, Glasgow, where, their children were born.  In about 1900 they moved to Montgomerie Drive, Glasgow and before 1925 to Orangefield near Prestwick.  His younger daughter Iris was married from Orangefield.

During the 1914-18 war, Harry Carvick Webster was attached to the British Ministry of Munitions, as an expert in Lead.- this expertise coming from his work in Alexander Fergusson & Co. His knowledge of lead supply, sources, uses, fitted him for this work..

He was a man who enjoyed the good things in life.  Consciously or subconsciously, he had an 'Edwardian Look', with the beaked Webster nose and a fu11, well trimmed moustache                 and beard.  He enjoyed good food and wine and his dinner parties were memorable.  His family were very closely knit and the children were not merely sisters and brothers, but close friends - no higher tribute can be paid to their parents, really.

Harry was an active figure in forming various white lead/paint manufacturers into the combine better known as B A L M (British Australian Lead Manufacturers).  The merger was made to stop various small firms cutting each others throats to promote the well being of those in the group.  His trips to Australia were always part business, part pleasure.

He died in Orangefield, Prestwick in 1932 from,cancer of the bowel after a long illness.

 

CATHERINE AGNES BALFOUR FAIRFAX

 

Known as Agnes to the family, she was the daughter of Edward Ross Fairfax (son of John Fairfax, founder of the Sydney Morning Herald) and was born 19 July 1867.  She married 31 July 1888, in London, Harry Carvick Webster.  They settled at 10 Huntly Gardens, Glasgow, and it was there that their children were born. (see table p,68)

 

                               Agnes always had plenty of money and she used it to enjoy life by travelling, collecting, and meeting people.  During 1905/06 she and Harry took their two oldest daughters, Zara and Rua, out to Australia and then on to New Zealand, on a part business, part family reunion trip. The 13 year old Rua, kept an account of part of the trip in her diary.

 

At the end of the 1014-18 war, they resumed travelling and spent a great deal of time in Australia, Agnes visiting friends in Melbourne or her daughter, Zara in Queensland.  With a capable staff in Glasgow to look after the children, she was able to spend as much time visiting friends and family as she wished.  She collected various things from stamps to china and pewter, some of which is in the Sydney Art Gallery.  She also had a fine collection of Australian paintings by local artists.

 

Life did have its tragedies for Agnes and Harry.  Their eldest son, John, was killed in Mesopotamia in 1918 and their second son, Ross, was killed on the North West Frontier, India, in 1923 which meant that they had no son to carry on the Webster name.  After the death of Harry in 1932, Agnes spent her time travelling between her daughters in Scotland and her daughters in Australia.  Orangefield, the home in Glasgow, was sold and Agnes moved into her own flat in Portman Square, London where her daughter Rua, and her grand-daughter Rua, stayed in 1934.  Unfortunately, this flat and its contents which included several Webster papers, was destroyed during the Blitz.

Agnes Webster died 23 May 1955 and was buried at Largs Cemetery in Glasgow.

 

 


Alexander Sneid Webster fourth son of Andrew and Jane Webster was born at Montrose, Scotland about 1824, married at Sydney Australia 8th June 1861 Mary Thompson (born 27th May 1843 - died 27th April 1865) daughter of John Carvick Thompson and died at Glasgow, Scotland 1905 leaving issue one son.

(A)  Harry Carvick Webster born Sydney, Australia 13th May 1862, married London, England 31st July 1888 Catherine Agnes Balfour Fairfax (born 19th July 1867 - died 23rd May 1955) daughter of Edward Ross Balfour Fairfax and his wife Catherine MacKenzie and died 1932 leaving the following issue:

 

(1)     a son stillborn 1889

 

  (2)    Una Zara Marie Webster born Glasgow, Scotland,18th April 1890 married her first husband,1912,Robert Scott Cree (died 15th April 1917 and had issue.

(a)  Thomas Scott Cree born 1st.  May 1914, married 20th February 1943 Dorothy Jean Stewart Fraser and has issue:

                   (a1)  Janet Fraser Cree born 3rd November 1943.

                   (a2)  Gillian Mary Cree born 11th May 1947 and died 20th February 1953.

 

Una Zara Marie Webster married secondly 6th August 1921,Clive Evans and died at Warwick, Queensland, Australia, 6th May 1970 having had further issue:

 

(b)  Philip Ross Evans born 18th June 1923 married 28th July 1949 Olive Marna Burnett and had issue.

                    (b1)  Richard Ross Evans born 8th September    1950.

      (b2)  Sandra Lea Evans born 19th March 1952 married 30th April 1976 Malcolm Harrold.

     (b3)  Sally Ann Evans born 18th October 1956.

                   (b4)  Carolyn Marna Evans born 17th April 1960.

 

(c)      Harry Webster Evans born 18th September 1927 married Josephine Huntly and had issue:

(c1)  Zara Juliet Evans born 7th July 1977.

                   (c2)  Alice Huntly Evans born 25th May 1980.

       

         (d)           Katherine Joan Carvick Evans born 26th May 1929 married as her first husband, 18th September 1953, Alan Robson and had issue:

 

    (dl)  Ian Charles Robson born 27th August 1954 (Malaya) married 15th January 1982 Morag Lapsley.

   (d2)  Karen Joan Carvick Robson born 17th March 1957. (Malacca) Katherine Joan Carvick Evans married secondly, 1972) Annan Cook.

(c3)  Catherine Helen Agnes Maxwell born 8th January 1952 married Perry Lee Campbell.

                (c4)  Jane Sarah Frances Maxwell born 20th July 1959.

 

(d)  Rachell Florence Williams born 5th December 1928 married 17th April 1952,David Herbert Younger and had issue:

    (dl)  Janet MacKenzie Younger born 17th March 1953 married 5th January 1973, John William Flower and has issue:

    (1)  Arran Jock Flower born 10th September 1979.

               (d2)  Robin Rachel Younger born 26th March 1955.

               (d3)  Diana Joan Younger born 7th January 1957.

               (d4)  Susan Mary Younger born 28th December 1958.

               (d5)  Margot Louise Younger born 13th February 1963.

 

 

(e)  Alison Joan Williams born 19th  April 1936 married 21st  August 1959 John. Parker Ramsay and had issue:

(el)  Duncan Alexander Ramsay born 19th  January 1962

         (e2)  Skye Webster Ramsay born 1964.

 

(4)  Joan Marguerite Fergusson Webster born 15th  May 1895, married 1920 Hugh Neilson and had issue:

(a)  John Croom Neilson born 11th  April 1922, married 24th  May 1950, Esmary Anderson and had issue:

 

   (al)  Joan Neilson born 3rd  June 1951.

            (a2)  Ann Neilson born 8th  August 1954.

            (a3)  Sheila Neilson born 26th  July 1956.

            (a4)  Hugh Neilson born 8th  August 1959, married Ann Noble and had issue:

                 (1)  Ross Neilson born 12th  February 1979.

                 (2)  Joanne Neilson born 5th  February 1981.

        (b)  Rosslyn Ann Speid Neilson born 21st  September 1923.

       

        (c)  June Marguerite Neilson born 1927, married John Richardson and had issue:

 

             (c1)  Richard Richardson born 1950, married 1980,Gillian Thomson and had issue:

                (1)  Kate Richardson born 1981.

 

            (c2)  Sara Richardson born 1956, married 1976, David Mortimer and had issue:

                (1)  Benjamin Mortimer born 1978.

 

  (3)   Catherine Rua Mackenzie Webster born Glasgow, Scotland, 23rd  May 1893 married 15th  March 1919, Sir Dudley Williams and died 12th December 1959 leaving the following issue:

       (a)  Rua Mackenzie Williams born 14th  September 1920 married 21st  January 1947, Peter Ralph Johnson and had issue.

          (a1)  David Peter Johnson born 5th  November 1947 married 9th  December 1972, Patricia Fairall and had issue.

                (1)  Ruth Catherine Johnson born 20th May 1978.

                (2)  Michael Dudley Johnson born 6th July 1980.

          (a2)  Ann Rua Mackenzie Johnson born 15th  January 1950 married 14th  September, 1976, Robert Williams Young and had issue:

                (1)  Vivienne Mackenzie Young born 8th September 1978.

(2)    Helen Victoria Young born 6th  July 1980.

 

      (b)  Ross Dudley Williams born 1923 married first, Wilma Lyon and had issue:

           (b1)  Douglas Williams (deceased)

           (b2)  Andrew Ross Williams

        Ross Dudley Williams married secondly, Eve Morris and died 1970.

 

     (c)  Rosemary Agnes Williams born 17th  January 1925 married 22nd  April 1948, Robert William Maxwell and died 3rd  August 1976 leaving the following issue:

          (c1)  Robert Dudley Maxwell born 4th  February 1949 married 11th  September 1970, Kim. Erin Stevenson and had issue:

                 (1)  Britt Meredith Maxwell born 16th  March 1973.

(2)  Ross Maxwell born 7th  July 1974.

(3)  Penelope Robin Maxwell born 10th  May 1978.

                 (4)  Sarah Carolyn Maxwell born 4th July 1980.

          (c2)  Rosemary Linda Maxwell born 7th  April 1950 married 20th  March 1976, Michael Francis Hogan and had issue:

                 (1)  Robert Francis Hogan born 3rd  May 1978.

                 (2)  Stuart Michael Hogan born 7th January 1981.

  

    (d)  Hugh Ferrier Neilson born 26th  August 1930 (twin), married 1958, Shirley Coall and had issue:

         (d1)  David Neilson born 1960.

         (d2)  Peter Neilson born 1962.

         (d3)  Fiona Neilson born 1964.

         (d4) Graham Neilson born 1970.

 

   (e) Harry Philip Neilson born 26th  August 1930 (twin), married 1964 Elspeth Anderson and had issue:

         (el)  Carolyn Neilson born 1966.

        (e2)  Allison Neilson born 1967.

        (e3)  Andrew Neilson born 1970.

 

(5)  John Alexander Croom Webster born 1897 and died, killed in action in Mesopotamia,1918.

 

(6)  Harry Ross Webster born 1900 and died, killed at Indian Northwest  Frontier,1923.

 

(7)  lris Speid Elasaid Balfour Webster born 11th  December 1901, married 18th  June 1925, Cecil Gibb and had issue:

(a)    Ian Skene Gibb born 7th  July 1926, married 28th  July 1951, Marguerite Watson and had issue:

    (al)  Charles William Gibb born 17th  April 1954 and died 1st  May 1961.

          (a2)  James Francis Gibb born 14th  June 1955,  married 2nd  September 1978 Lesley Ruth Mock.

          (a3)  Jonathan Andrew Gibb born 27th  April 1959.

          (a4)  Alastair Campbell Gibb born 20th  September 1963.

   

(b)    Elizabeth Balfour Gibb born 26th  August 1927, married Dr. Robert Seville and had issue;

    (b1)  Malcolm Seville born 28th  October 1951.

    (b2)  Stuart Seville born 4th  December 1953, married Shirley Thompson and had issue:                                 

           (1) Robert Scott Fairfax Seville born 9th  April 1981.

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